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Poster: ColdRain108 Date: Dec 30, 2011 12:21pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: China Rider

The China Rider from Europe '72 is what got my attention...then it was this that completely set me off:

http://www.wolfgangsvault.com/grateful-dead/video/alabama-getaway_1002969.html

and every song that follweed at that show. I never looked back and jumped in with both feet. 200+ shows attended, now I play in 3 different GD based bands, still feel this about the only musical style that R&R has produced that will stand the test of time in a Beethoven/Mozart level...ie 400 years later and still relavent.

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Poster: Scarlet Terrapin Date: Dec 30, 2011 1:06pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: China Rider

Yeah, in Alabama Getaway the song seems workmanlike and then builds to a wonderful ending. But the China/Rider is fantastic.

What this means is that I should get off my duff and get into a tribute band here in Vancouver (electric bass mainly)

Cheers

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Poster: ColdRain108 Date: Dec 30, 2011 2:46pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: China Rider


I play electric bass for the most part. One group is a GD tribute, one is a JGB style with about 50% originals and 50% JGB tunes, the third plays Dead but not like the Dead, just inspired by the style but not trying to cop licks, playing it our way with the structure of the song as the foundation.

I find that playing live on stage is about the only way I can get close to the excitment and thrill of a real GD show.



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Poster: stv_57 Date: Dec 31, 2011 6:55am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: China Rider

Maybe a bit of an exaggeration, but Western Civilation might have peaked, so to speak, somewhere between China Cat and I Know You Rider on Europe '72.

Phil has a great quote about inspired group improvisation that I'm trying to dig up, but haven't been able to find.

What I got out of the quote though, was that this kind of group improvisation, or group mind, can literally take the music to a mystical or spiritual level, at least when it works.

This version of China Rider is one of countless GD moments that transcend the individual players, and connect them and the listeners to something richer and deeper.

At least that's my theory, and I'm sticking to it...